Legislature(2013 - 2014)BARNES 124

02/10/2014 03:15 PM House LABOR & COMMERCE


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* first hearing in first committee of referral
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= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HB 276 MOTOR VEHICLE DEALER EMPLOYEES TELECONFERENCED
Moved Out of Committee
*+ HB 211 EMPLOYMENT OF PERSONS WITH DISABILITIES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 211(L&C) Out of Committee
*+ HB 213 GOLF COURSE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSHB 213(L&C) Out of Committee
         HB 213-GOLF COURSE ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGE LICENSES                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:21:53 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON announced  that  the first  only  order of  business                                                               
would be  HOUSE BILL  NO. 213,  "An Act  relating to  golf course                                                               
alcoholic beverage licenses."                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:22:19 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
BRODIE  ANDERSON, Staff,  Representative  Steve Thompson,  Alaska                                                               
State  Legislature, stated  that  currently privately-owned  golf                                                               
courses  can only  serve beer  and wine.   Unfortunately,  due to                                                               
this  limitation,  the  privately-owned   golf  courses  are  not                                                               
provided  the  same  opportunities  currently  allowed  for  golf                                                               
courses on federal  property such as military  installations.  He                                                               
said  that military  golf  courses are  exempt  from golf  course                                                               
liquor licenses  and can  serve all  alcoholic beverages.   Since                                                               
private golf courses  are limited to serving beer  and wine, they                                                               
are  at   a  disadvantage  to  secure   large  events,  including                                                               
tournaments.   Additionally, unaccompanied minors can  only enter                                                               
dining facilities  at a privately-owned  golf course  that serves                                                               
beer  and  wine  and  minors   cannot  play  golf  without  being                                                               
accompanied by an adult.  This  bill would allow golf courses the                                                               
same privileges as  those located on federal property.   Under HB
213  privately-owned  golf  courses  could  serve  all  alcoholic                                                               
beverages.  The  bill would also clarify  restrictions for minors                                                               
on the golf course.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON referred to a  letter in members' packets from [Rich                                                               
Sayers, General  Manager] Anchorage  Golf Course and  O'Malley on                                                               
the  Green.    The  letter suggests  the  committee  consider  an                                                               
amendment.  He referred to page 2  line 11, which read, "... by a                                                               
person over  the age of 21  years, and the parent  or guardian of                                                               
the ...."   He explained  that having  the word "and"  means that                                                               
the minor  must be accompanied  by someone  over 21 and  also has                                                               
consent  of a  parent or  guardian.   He stated  that the  letter                                                               
suggests [removal of the language  that requires minors under the                                                               
age of 16 to  be accompanied by a person over the  age of 21], by                                                               
changing "and"  to "or."  He  said this would allow  minors under                                                               
the  age  of 16  to  play  golf so  long  as  they have  parental                                                               
consent.  He indicated the prime  sponsor of HB 213 believes that                                                               
is a good change.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:25:27 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON asked  whether an  amendment has  been submitted  to                                                               
accomplish the change.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  answered no; that  the sponsor hopes  the committee                                                               
would entertain amending the bill.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked  for clarification on whether the  bill is time                                                               
sensitive.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
3:26:47 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
The committee took an at-ease from 3:26 p.m. to 3:28 p.m.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
3:28:22 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON stated  that the bill has a zero  fiscal note and it                                                               
will only impact privately-owned golf courses.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON remarked  that other golf courses have  weighed in on                                                               
the bill, as well.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
3:28:49 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD  asked  how many  golf  courses  operate                                                               
recreational site license.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. ANDERSON  answered that eight golf  courses currently operate                                                               
with a liquor license.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT remarked  that he  does not  own a  golf                                                               
course.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:30:07 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  made a  motion  to  adopt a  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1, on page 2, line 11, to strike "and" insert "or."                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD  objected for the purpose  of discussion.                                                               
She  said  she  preferred  the original  language;  however,  she                                                               
deferred to the will of the committee.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE REINBOLD removed her objection.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:30:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  CHENAULT  explained  the  reason  for  Conceptual                                                               
Amendment  1 is  that he  and the  prime sponsor  do not  want to                                                               
restrict  youth from  being  on  golf courses.    He offered  his                                                               
belief that  this language will  not hamper [the liquor  laws] in                                                               
any way  nor will  it allow youth  under the ages  of 21  to have                                                               
better access  to liquor.   He said  that "or" fits  the scenario                                                               
better than "and" does.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
3:31:44 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MILLETT reminded  members  that  any golf  course                                                               
serving alcohol  must follow  the liquor  rules of  the Alcoholic                                                               
Beverage Control Board  (ABC).  This means all  servers must have                                                               
TAM cards  [training for alcohol  professionals]. It  wouldn't be                                                               
any different under the bill  since servers aren't going to serve                                                               
children or allow  anyone under 21 an opportunity to  drink.  She                                                               
didn't see any problem having youth  on the golf course since all                                                               
of the provisions related to alcohol would apply.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:33:10 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   REINBOLD   lifted  her   objection   [previously                                                               
lifted].                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
There  being no  further  objection, Conceptual  Amendment 1  was                                                               
adopted.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
3:33:39 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
HOWARD  THEISS,  Owner, Fairbanks  Golf  Course,  stated that  he                                                               
supports the  idea of a full  liquor license on the  golf course.                                                               
He  also appreciated  [Conceptual  Amendment 1]  since it  allows                                                               
minors to  practice and improve  their golf.   He said  that it's                                                               
been  tough to  compete  [with  other golf  courses]  due to  the                                                               
liquor  law restrictions.    He  stated that  he  is  one of  six                                                               
owners,  and  president  of  the   organization.    He  said  the                                                               
Fairbanks Golf Course is in support of HB 213.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
3:34:58 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
JOMO  STEWART, Project  Manager,  Fairbanks Economic  Development                                                               
Corporation  [FEDCO), stated  that the  FEDCO supports  the bill.                                                               
He said  that his boss,  [Jim Dodson, President and  CEO, FEDCO],                                                               
sent  a letter  of  support  [in members'  packets].   The  FEDCO                                                               
supports HB 213  in terms of attracting  tourism related golfing.                                                               
Additionally,  the  FEDCO  supports  the bill  in  terms  of  the                                                               
competitiveness  between  the  public  and private  sector.    He                                                               
explained  that the  Fairbanks Golf  Course is  at a  competitive                                                               
disadvantage  since  it  cannot   provide  the  kinds  of  things                                                               
tourists are  accustomed to in  other parts  of the country.   He                                                               
concluded that  the FEDCO  is supporting  the bill  for fairness,                                                               
competitiveness, and attractiveness.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
3:36:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
RICH SAYERS,  General Manager,  Anchorage Golf  Course, testified                                                               
in  support  of HB  213  and  in  support  of allowing  youth  to                                                               
participate without being  accompanied by an adult,  as stated in                                                               
the letter [in members' packets].                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
3:37:08 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
DALE   FOX,  President&   CEO,  Cabaret,   Hotel,  Restaurant   &                                                               
Retailer's  Association (CHARR),  said  that  CHARR supports  the                                                               
concept  of golf  course  beverage licenses,  in  which the  golf                                                               
course purchases a  full beverage dispensary license  in order to                                                               
be able to serve beverages anywhere  on the course.  He expressed                                                               
concern  that  the bill  may  provide  "full beverage  dispensary                                                               
license"  instead of  a "golf  course license".   He  stated that                                                               
CHARR  believes there  is  a  need to  purchase  a full  beverage                                                               
dispensary  license  to  be  fair   and  competitive  with  other                                                               
establishments in  the community.   The second  part of  the bill                                                               
attempts  to address  minors on  premise.   The  bill as  written                                                               
would grant  16-year-olds with parental  permission the  right to                                                               
be on  the course.   He suggested the  issue is larger  than what                                                               
the bill  addresses since [it  only addresses youth 16  years and                                                               
older] but  10-year-olds participate in "first  tee" programs and                                                               
he has observed  a mother dropping off a 12-year-old  at the golf                                                               
course.  He said  he wants golf courses open to  youth of any age                                                               
so kids can  learn to play golf.   He said, "And  maybe we'll get                                                               
our  next  Tiger Woods  from  Alaska."    He suggested  that  the                                                               
committee  should allow  youth  of  any age  to  access the  golf                                                               
course.  Golf  is clearly a healthy activity and  youth should be                                                               
encouraged to participate in golfing.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:39:02 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  REINBOLD asked  whether he  supported [Conceptual                                                               
Amendment 1].                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOX answered  that [Conceptual Amendment 1]  makes some sense                                                               
although he  was unsure whether it  goes far enough.   He offered                                                               
his belief that the  age limit is a problem for  some of his golf                                                               
course members.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
3:39:34 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON said it  appears that [subparagraph] (B)                                                               
appears to cover any use, at least with parental consent.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR. FOX answered yes.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
3:40:05 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JOSEPHSON  asked   whether  the  full  dispensary                                                               
license would be  required for spirits so the  license would need                                                               
to be upgraded from beer and wine.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON  suggested that the Alcoholic  Beverage Control Board                                                               
(ABC Board) could clarify if this pertains to beer and wine.                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOSEPHSON  pointed out that the  bill would delete                                                               
beer and wine and insert alcoholic beverages.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
3:41:04 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON  asked  whether  this  bill  would  require  a  full                                                               
[beverage dispensary license].                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SHIRLEY  COTE,  Executive  Director, Alcoholic  Beverage  Control                                                               
Board  ("ABC   Board"),  Department  of  Commerce,   Community  &                                                               
Economic  Development,  responded  that  the  bill  would  extend                                                               
beyond just serving beer and  wine to include spirits, similar to                                                               
a  beverage dispensary  license such  that golf  course licensees                                                               
would be allowed to serve, beer, wine, or hard liquor.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
3:42:03 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR OLSON asked whether she had  any issues about the minors on                                                               
premises after the committee [adopted Conceptual Amendment 1].                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MS. COTE  answered that Representative Millett  was correct, that                                                               
the  licensee   is  responsible   for  ensuring   that  alcoholic                                                               
beverages are not put in the hands  of those under the age of 21.                                                               
Currently,  staff has  to  ensure the  underage  persons are  not                                                               
served  or given  access to  beer and  wine so  she assumed  this                                                               
would extend to hard liquor on golf courses.                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
3:42:55 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  OLSON,  after first  determining  no  one else  wished  to                                                               
testify, closed public testimony on HB 213.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
3:43:11 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MILLETT  moved to report  HB 213, as  amended, out                                                               
of   committee   with    individual   recommendations   and   the                                                               
accompanying fiscal  notes.  There  being no objection,  the CSHB
213(L&C) was reported from the  House Labor and Commerce Standing                                                               
Committee.                                                                                                                      

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HB213 ver A.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 213
HB213 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 213
HB213 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 213
HB213 Fiscal Note-DCCED-ABC-02-06-14.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 213
HB276 ver U.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 276
HB276 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 276
HB276 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-WHA-02-07-14.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 276
HB276 Supporting Document-Letter DOLWD to Auto Dealers 12-6-2013Correspondence between Auto Dealers and DOL.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 276
HB276 Supporting Documents-Letter AK Auto Dealers Assoc 01-23-2014.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 276
HB211 ver A.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Sponsor Statement.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Sectional Analysis.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Fiscal Note-DHSS-CDDG-02-05-14.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Fiscal Note-DOA-DOP-02-07-14.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Fiscal Note-DOLWD-CS-02-07-14.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Fiscal Note-EED-SSA-2-7-14.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Supporting Document-BMC Psychiatry Report.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Supporting Document-Governor's Council on Disabilities and Special Education Summary of HB 211.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Supporting Document-NACDD Report.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB211 Supporting Document-State Employment Leadership Network Report.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211
HB213 Supporting Documents-Letter O'Malley's on the Green 2-7-2014.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 213
HB213 Supporting Documents-Letter FEDCO 02-7-2014.pdf HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 213
HB211 Supporting Documents-Letter FOCUS, Inc 02-6-2014.PDF HL&C 2/10/2014 3:15:00 PM
HB 211